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Thu, Aug. 23rd, 2007, 10:39 am
The Black Hole Of Wikipedia

shsilver informs me that the Wikipedia page about me is under discussion for deletion.

This amuses me to no end.

It was under discussion for deletion in 2004, y'know. I didn't even know I had a Wikipedia page until sarekofvulcan told me it was under the gun.

I say now what I said then: I don't need a Wikipedia page. I mean, I like having it, and if I think about it I suppose I can justify to myself that I might deserve one. I have done a few things of some note.

But for all that I love and support Wikipedia, there is one thing about it that makes me crazy (and if you really want a rant on this topic, just wind up partiallyclips): the notion that someone can decide you're not worthy of inclusion on the apparent basis of their likes and dislikes.

The guy who's trying to get me deleted seems to have a problem with my existing on Wikipedia because I'm not notable enough, or something. His own page lists him as "a comics/SF fan with a background in mathematics, living in the Greater Manchester area (that's in England, folks)". It mentions his Doctor Who fandom, and hints that there's a story behind his nickname. And, apparently, he comments on his own page.

I'm not calling for the deletion of his page.

ETA: The call to delete the page was withdrawn. Many thanks for the yeoman work, gang. I am flattered by and grateful for your efforts to prove that I'm Somebody.

Thu, Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:31 pm (UTC)
alymid: Re: Minor clarification of terms

that is not true - you put on a number of concerts in private venues (what the hell else is a house concert!)

Thu, Aug. 23rd, 2007 03:37 pm (UTC)
filkertom: Re: Minor clarification of terms

Well, yeah, dear. :) It raises two core questions about the entire process when there aren't a lot of press clippings, which is what this guy seems to be after: How many citations of what form count as "notability", and who decides? On one level, yeah, I'm a fanboy. On another level, I'm a self-supporting indie musician with a twenty-year career, thirteen albums, numerous awards for performing and songwriting, priase from Christine Lavin and Dr. Demento, and a small but solid worldwide fan base.

I admit that part of me wants to ask this nit what he's done lately.

Thu, Aug. 23rd, 2007 04:56 pm (UTC)
starcat_jewel: Re: Minor clarification of terms

There have been some extensive discussions of Wikipedia over on making_light recently; you might want to cruise by and take a look. A lot of people are expressing frustration because rules-gamers are chasing people with genuine expertise off the site, leaving articles full of factual errors that can't be corrected because someone with an obsession and a lot of edit-status* (but no knowledge) will keep reverting the corrections.

* AKA "big frog in small pond" syndrome.

Thu, Aug. 23rd, 2007 05:41 pm (UTC)
filkertom: Re: Minor clarification of terms

Wow. That is fascinating. For those interested, here 'tis.

Thu, Aug. 23rd, 2007 10:22 pm (UTC)
starcat_jewel: Re: Minor clarification of terms

There's another one here.

Fri, Aug. 24th, 2007 06:24 am (UTC)
kayshapero: Re: Minor clarification of terms

Gresham's Law does seem to apply to everything sooner or later, doesn't it? :(

Fri, Aug. 31st, 2007 07:11 pm (UTC)
ex_cribbins: Re: Minor clarification of terms

there aren't a lot of press clippings, which is what this guy seems to be after

Not so much press clippings as independent coverage. The citation in The Oxford Dictionary of Science Fiction was precisely the sort of thing I was after; had it already been in the article to start with...

I admit that part of me wants to ask this nit what he's done lately.

I apparently inspired a song by noted filker Tom Smith. Which is an achievement of sorts, I guess.

Fri, Aug. 31st, 2007 07:33 pm (UTC)
sarekofvulcan: Re: Minor clarification of terms

Well, at least that puts you in good company... :-)

Fri, Aug. 31st, 2007 07:55 pm (UTC)
ex_cribbins: Re: Minor clarification of terms

Somewhat less bleak than Sad Kermit. Or this animated gem.