Tom Smith ([info]filkertom) wrote,
@ 2008-08-29 04:23:00
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Maybe We HAVE Got A Chance This Year, After All
How good was Barack Obama's acceptance speech last night? Don't ask me -- ask Pat frickin' Buchanan:

Check out the faces on the other commentators, especially Rachel Maddow at about the one-minute mark.

Obama/Biden '08.


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[info]johno
2008-08-29 09:05 am UTC (link)
"That's right folks, we had to cut off Pat Buchanan from gushing about the Obama speech."

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[info]jenrose1
2008-08-29 09:13 am UTC (link)
*flails*

*faints*

*giggles hysterically as the men in white coats come to take her away.*

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[info]tommytoony
2008-08-29 09:57 am UTC (link)
what you said

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[info]qnofhrt
2008-08-29 11:41 am UTC (link)
After that, I keep thinking we should be looking for those 4 horsemen.

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[info]rmeidaking
2008-08-29 11:22 am UTC (link)
The thing is, they're gearing up to say that Obama is an Orator and a SpeechWriter - but not Presidential material. Really. "Yeah, it was a great speech, but he's still Not Good Enough."

Because McCain can't give a speech like that. Even if you handed him the same script, he doesn't have the delivery skills. They have to somehow negate the great abilities - because, frankly, on an even playing field, the Republicans don't stand a chance. They have to UNlevel the playing field.

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[info]valsadie
2008-08-29 11:49 am UTC (link)
Rachel Maddow's face *is* truly priceless!

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[info]redaxe
2008-08-29 11:58 am UTC (link)
Between Obama's speech, my l33t graph1x skillz0rs (TM :-), and most of season 1 of Justice League, last night at work kicked serious coccyx. Knowing that it was the end of the week just made it sweeter.

And now, seeing this, I am ready to do a Snoopy Happy Dance out in the fountain in our courtyard. Thanks, Tom!

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[info]maiac
2008-08-29 11:59 am UTC (link)
As Obama described his policy proposals, I thought, "This isn't a campaign speech. It's a State of the Union address."

I am so looking forward to the debates.

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[info]dan_ad_nauseam
2008-08-30 04:39 am UTC (link)
NPR's commentators said that's what the script looked like beforehand.

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[info]siliconshaman
2008-08-29 12:11 pm UTC (link)
You know what, after that speech, I wouldn't be surprised if McCain voted for Obama!

There's no way the republicans can compete...

which is kinda worrying, actually. Because the puppet masters behind McSame and Bush have got to know they can't defeat Obama fairly, and they can't control him or use him the same way they are pulling the Republican's strings. which doesn't leave them a lot of options. They can either pack up and admit defeat, [unlikely because that'd be like blood in the water], they can cheat and either hope to fool people they won or that people just won't care [equally unlikely] or they can stage a coup under the guise of some false flag event. [most likely but still not good]

Obama is definitely in the same category of leaders and inspirational figures as King and Kennedy... and we know what happened to them.

If he is allowed to, he's going to be one of your countries greatest figures... and there will be some who'd kill him for that.

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[info]saganth
2008-08-29 02:10 pm UTC (link)
Your last comment is frighteningly possible.... but as Obama says, let's make this time around a time of change. Or at least hope so. Sooner or later, something's gotta give in the favor of all that is right, enlightened and good, and not just in the favor of the evil of those holding on to power at the expense of others.

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[info]wormquartet
2008-08-29 12:35 pm UTC (link)
That....was awesome.

And yeah, I watched the acceptance speech last night. Amazing.

-=ShoEboX=-

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[info]bayushisan
2008-08-29 12:59 pm UTC (link)
The thing is, Pat was absolutely right about the speach though. I watched it last night and was struck by how Obama talked, not about red and blue states, but about the country as a whole and what needs to be done to make it a better place.

It was some powerful stuff and I'm not surprised at all that Pat Buchanan saw that and was compimentary about it.

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[info]admnaismith
2008-08-29 01:42 pm UTC (link)

Who was that guy, and what have they done with Patty-Patty-Buke-Buke?

Now we can look forward to the GOP media denouncing Buke-Buke as part of the fringe left media conspiracy. Brain go 'splodey.

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[info]hitchkitty
2008-08-29 01:51 pm UTC (link)
Reminds me of a segment on The Daily Show, during the Schiavo fiasco.

Buchanan and Rabbi Schmuley (of Shalom in the Home) were on some talk show, possibly Larry King, and Schmuley made some point in favor of keeping her on life support.

Buchanan's response: "I think the rabbi is right."

His reaction to Obama's speech belongs in the same file: Things I Never Thought I Would Hear Pat Buchanan Say.

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[info]zibblsnrt
2008-08-29 02:47 pm UTC (link)
Buchanan's interesting in that sense.

It feels to me at times that about half the things he has to say would fall under some of my personal definitions of Foulest Evil - but a good chunk of the other half are things I would say just as readily myself.

It generally makes it worth my time to pay attention to him sometimes.

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[info]starcat_jewel
2008-08-29 02:54 pm UTC (link)
The thing I remember noticing about Buchanan, back when my local paper was carrying his opinion column, was that on most topics I could understand where he was coming from and follow his arguments, even when I didn't agree with them (which was... well, I don't remember ever agreeing with him).

But the minute the topic of homosexuality came up, rational argument went right out the window in favor of foaming-at-the-mouth ranting hatred. The contrast between that and his normal writing style was startling. I've been waiting for him to be outed ever since.

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[info]zibblsnrt
2008-08-29 04:57 pm UTC (link)
Homosexuality and Greenland; he was adamant for awhile that the US annex Greenland because it doesn't deserve to exist, but never really explained why. ;)

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[info]jcw_da_dmg
2008-08-29 06:39 pm UTC (link)
I think he hates the idea that Denmark has so much control over such a strategically important part of the world.

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[info]zibblsnrt
2008-08-29 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Nah; when I came across it back in the nineties he couched it explicitly in terms of "Greenland doesn't have the right to exist." It was pure tautalogy.

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[info]saganth
2008-08-29 02:14 pm UTC (link)
I hope to whatever God/Goddess/Deity/Power that is that THIS man is truly as good as he seems and that he gets the chance to prove it again and again for the next eight years, and inspire more of the same for the 8 after that and the 8 after that, and onwards!

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[info]ashnistrike
2008-08-29 07:23 pm UTC (link)
Well, he's not perfect. He's gotten by in Chicago politics for several years, he voted for FISA, etc. But "almost as good as he seems" I can hope for. Not to mention "as smart as he seems."

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[info]saganth
2008-08-29 02:18 pm UTC (link)
Also meant to say, anyone else having memories of Michael Douglas as Andrew Shepard in "The American President"?

Or Captain John Sheridan from "Babylon 5"?

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[info]admnaismith
2008-08-29 02:31 pm UTC (link)

"Get the Hell out of our Country!!!"

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[info]zibblsnrt
2008-08-29 02:45 pm UTC (link)
Oh come on, you drop a Sheridan ref and didn't catch that? ;)

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[info]saganth
2008-08-29 02:44 pm UTC (link)
LOL Took me a moment to understand that *blushes and hangs his head in shame for not getting it right away*

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[info]allandaros
2008-08-29 04:48 pm UTC (link)
Our last, best hope...?

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[info]saganth
2008-08-29 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Sorry to repeat post, i'm doing so as I'm watching the speech video... My comment above about Babylon 5? Diid anyone notice, at about 31:35, Obama's comment about America being "OUR LAST BEST HOPE"??????

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[info]pandoradeloeste
2008-08-29 03:24 pm UTC (link)
Bwaaahahaha. (Note to self: get a computer that can play video and/or a working TV.)

You know what would be awesome? If Obama really ran with this whole "pro-Obama D&D players stuck in their mom's basement" thing and courted the hell out of his geek constituents. Dropped BSG and B5 references into his speeches, made his slogan "Last Best Hope For Peace", passed out d20s, etc. I don't know if it would help him win, but it would be really entertaining.

Edited at 2008-08-29 03:24 pm UTC

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[info]nomaddervish
2008-08-29 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but just watch out so that it doesn't suddenly morph into "Last Best Hope For Victory" three years in.

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[info]stoutfellow
2008-08-29 07:11 pm UTC (link)
I suspect that Obama was alluding not to B5 but to Abraham Lincoln.

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[info]ladyoceanstar
2008-08-29 03:36 pm UTC (link)
This still has me speechless.

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[info]underpope
2008-08-29 04:00 pm UTC (link)
I think my brain broke.

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[info]wildcard9
2008-08-29 05:14 pm UTC (link)
I have heard Pat Buchanan talk about this campaign over the last two weeks, and I am glad to hear that he is looking at each candidate through the same lens. He is not supporting McCain because he is republican or not support Obama because he is democrat, Pat is supporting whoever is the best man offered for the job. THAT is how a commentator should be. My respect for him has gone way up, and I am glad to say that.

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[info]cyranetta
2008-08-29 06:23 pm UTC (link)
I was a little appalled at Nora O'Donnell's expression of near-nausea, though, as if it was almost physically repulsive for Buchanan to be wowed by Obama's speech. There's your MSM just before getting reading to run an even bigger pettiness number on Obama.

The one thing about this whole convention that amazed me is that it made me appreciate "speechifyin'" again, after almost eight years of speeches being soemthing tolerable only if they were the inspiration for drinking games. So many of the others, Michelle Obama, the Clintons, Biden, Gore gave a multi-stage rocket, and he took it brilliantly into orbit.

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[info]fredhuggins
2008-08-29 06:29 pm UTC (link)
Love him or hate him, and believe me I'd have him flung into the cold vacuum of space if I could (and if space wasn't too good for him), Pat Buchanan is a fiercely independent voice. He ignores general consensus, and often common decency and logic, to voice how HE and HE ALONE feels. That kind of purity (pure shit, often, but purity nonetheless) is often in starker contrast to that "play the game, say what the audience wants to hear" mentality at the cable news outlets, than people give him credit for.

It was indeed priceless to see his colleagues' horrified reactions when Buchanan gave his honest, personal, nonpartisan appraisal. You can almost see their thought balloons with the words "But--but---OBAMA = BAD!!!"

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[info]filkertom
2008-08-29 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Well, I think Rachel's was more, "Who are you and what have you done with Pat Buchanan?"

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[info]fredhuggins
2008-08-30 12:18 am UTC (link)
Flung him into the cold vacuum of space? (fingers crossed)

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[info]robin_june
2008-08-31 12:30 am UTC (link)
So much for the Liberal Media Bias.

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[info]redneckgaijin
2008-09-06 07:10 pm UTC (link)
Sorry twice: first for coming in way late, second for disagreeing.

Of course Buchanan praised the speech. Buchanan was a speechwriter for Nixon.

More to the point, though, the Republicans have never denied that Obama gives good speech. Their primary argument- which they lifted from Hillary- is that speechmaking is the only skill he has.

It does the Republicans no harm to praise Obama's speeches- because that only reinforces their claim that he's an empty suit with a good voice.

Speeches aren't enough; Obama has to kill in the debates, and he has to get the ground game going, and above all else he has to get the television media to actually report the fact that the Republicans are lying like cheap throw rugs about Obama, about their own record, about McCain's so-called maverick status, about everything.

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