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Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013, 08:55 am
Doofus Dynasty

Dunno why everybody's so shocked, shocked! that a 67-year-old duck call maker from the backwoods spouts racism and homophobia.

Nor am I surprised that Rush Limbaugh defends him on the grounds of FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

I'm not even piqued by the stance of the rest of his clan, that their fatigues-and-whittlin' Simple Country Honesty™ cannot possibly move forward without their patriarch.

However, I am slightly annoyed that Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) is jumping on the FREEDOM OF SPEECH! bandwagon. But then, he's only supposed to be one of the new breed of conservative intellectuals (which I'm sure we all remember from his Mr. Rogers-style SOTU rebuttal in 2009).

And I'm rather annoyed, and simultaneously bemused, at the FREEDOM OF SPEECH! outcry from the same people who boycotted the Dixie Chicks for saying they were embarrassed to be from the same state as Pres. Bush, the same folks who followed Ari Fleischer's despicable lead in warning people to "watch what you say".

Let's remind everyone, especially Jindal and Rushbo, of a little basic law: The First Amendment, guaranteeing freedom of speech, does indeed guarantee anyone the right to say anything (within the obvious limits of "fire" in a crowded theater, etc. Let's not cloud the argument with bullshit). This even extends to outright lies -- goodness knows enough of them have gone unchallenged.

And it guarantees that the government cannot legally suppress your speech.

It does not guarantee you an audience.

And, if you are a representative of a private company -- in this case, the A&E Network -- it does not guarantee you a job if you say shit that said company thinks is damaging to their image.

You'd think that someone who started from nothing and built his hand-carved duck calls into a fairly big corporation and a reality TV show would have people to mention these things to him. At least someone in his immediate family.

Ah well. I'm gonna continue to stay off his lawn.

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Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 03:07 pm (UTC)
catsittingstill

Frankly I'm kind of suprirsed the company reacted the way they did; I would have thought the audience of that show would approve of the anti-gay remarks. Maybe the company has other shows they think would be endangered.

At any rate, freedom of speech means the government won't imprison or fine Mr Duck Call for his remarks. It doesn't mean the rest of us can't use our brains to come to conclusions about him based on the remarks. It doesn't mean we can't use our consciences to act on those conclusions. And it doesn't mean we can't use *our* freedom of speech to talk to others about it.

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 04:01 pm (UTC)
alverant

They were probably worried that people would decide not to watch their channel at all over what was said. DD may be popular but one show does not a network make.

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 03:40 pm (UTC)
alverant

Yep. Remember how earlier this year a comedian in California poked fun at Texas governor Perry's business policies in the wake of that fertilizer explosion in West, Texas. Perry demanded the person be fire. Not so interested in free speech then where they.

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 04:50 pm (UTC)
barondave

Indeed, the Texas beef industry spent taxpayer $ suing Oprah Winfrey over her remarks. Apparently, to Big Government Conservatives, insulting gays is protected speech but insulting cows requires government regulations to stop.

Edited at 2013-12-20 04:50 pm (UTC)

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 04:26 pm (UTC)
msminlr

damn. And I bought some of his shirts and hats for my [also bearded] brother for Christmas.

never again.

Our cable TV system does not carry A&E that I am aware of, so I've never actually seen the show, even in online reruns.

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 04:28 pm (UTC)
arensb

See, like all liberals, you forgot those six very important words at the end of the First Amendment: "...unless it makes Baby Jesus cry."

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 04:39 pm (UTC)
hbruton

Very well said!

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 04:49 pm (UTC)
gardnerhill

Is the entire GOP going to need a refresher course on the friggin' First Amendment? Judging from the way they howl in rage when people tell the truth about them...

And never mind the homophobia - Duck-Dude's view of black-white relations in the Sowwth is a match for Paula Deen's, as the online article reported. Did you know none of the black folks DD worked with ever ever sang the blues or said bad stuff about whites in his presence? So they MUST have been happy. (Never mind that this was the era in which two grown white men tortured a black child to death over a WHISTLE, let alone saying something bad about whites.) He talks about "the blacks" being happy and singing and "godly" before all this equality MLK business started.

Hee hee. Seems several department stores are having a sudden flurry of returns of Duck Dynasty-themed goodies these days...

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 05:16 pm (UTC)
alverant

Is the entire GOP going to need a refresher course on the whole friggin' Constitution?

FIFY

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 04:52 pm (UTC)
barondave

We're seeing the usual, politically correct, whining from the right: "The only reason stupid people say stupid things is because smart people tell them not to."

Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 05:09 pm (UTC)
alverant

That just applies to the rest of us, not themselves.

Fri, Dec. 20th, 2013 08:00 pm (UTC)
kengr

I had to deal with this a lot on the BBS I used to run. It's not Freedom of Speech at all. It's Freedom of the Press.

Still First Amendment though.

Y'see, A&E didn't say he couldn't say it. They just said he couldn't use their "press"(network) to do so.

To paraphrase what I used to tell idiots who got out of line on the BBS:

"I'm not saying you can't say that. I'm saying that you can't say it *here*. Feel free to start your own network to say it on."

Sat, Dec. 21st, 2013 01:14 am (UTC)
hitchkitty

YES. Exactly this. A&E is exercising THEIR First Amendment rights. Thank you, that's the perfect response to all this idiocy.

Sat, Dec. 21st, 2013 01:15 am (UTC)
hitchkitty

Also, Tom? Props for the Casablanca reference.

Sat, Dec. 21st, 2013 10:35 am (UTC)
catlin

I am still amused at the line someone gave me. It is hilarious that a man who is concerned that being gay will lead to bestiality made his fortune off of selling a device to convince ducks you want to engage in adult activities with them...

Sat, Dec. 28th, 2013 05:36 am (UTC)
90scartoonman

Haha, wow! Didn't think of that, but that's funny.

Sat, Dec. 21st, 2013 03:14 pm (UTC)
stevemb

One little-noticed part of Ducky Boo Boo's ramblings that I found particularly appalling is comment that he doesn't feel any sense of apology or regret over beating up a couple of people and paying them off not to press charges, because anything he did before he found Jesus doesn't count. Apparently finding Jesus gives you free forgiveness, like catching a leprechaun gives you a free pot of gold.

Sun, Dec. 22nd, 2013 04:17 pm (UTC)
bayushisan

Uhm, not to be a pill here but that's kind of the point of Jesus' sacrifice. His coming to Earth to be crucified and then raised again was to forgive people of their sins should they choose to accept Him as their Savior. When you do that God does forgive everything you've done prior to that point. He considers you to be a new person, a new creature and the general teaching is that a person has to then forgive themselves so that they can grow in their faith and because they aren't that person anymore.

Real salvation changes a person, it's a transforming thing. I know this because I've done deep introspection before and I've seen what I would have been like without my faith and without Jesus in my life. I can tell you that what I saw that terrified me; but I'm not that person because of salvation, of that I have no doubt. When people talk about their pasts and what they used to be like, some do still feel tremendous guilt over what was done; others have let go because they understand that they aren't that person anymore.

It's really difficult to explain in some respects because a lot of it hinges on the the person who was saved allowing himself or herself to forgive themselves and move past their past and to forgive others in their past and present. It's not easy by any means and the people who are able to truly forgive, not just others, but the wrongs they themselves have done that they have felt real regret over have an inner strength many don't.

Sat, Dec. 21st, 2013 03:58 pm (UTC)
malada


I've seen exactly one episode of this show and I can tell you this is scripted and carefully staged.

I guess that's what most 'reality' TV really is - complete hookum.

-m

Mon, Dec. 23rd, 2013 02:30 am (UTC)
johnridley

Absolutely. The guy is free to say anything he likes. We're free to criticize him for it, and the network is free to fire him for saying those things. None of that violates his right to free speech.

Mon, Dec. 23rd, 2013 02:26 pm (UTC)
ldyerzsie

I've read that Daddy Dearest hasn't been happy, happy, happy with the way the show is being edited and the message getting out. He may be very much doing and saying things on purpose to get out of the contract. He's college educated and was once a school teacher. He's not dumb.