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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013, 11:18 am
Still Not Asking For It

Necessary for your philosophical advancement. Probably NSFW, although it is technically, I guess.

This entry was originally posted at http://filkertom.dreamwidth.org/1592788.html. You may comment there or here, although LJ tends to have a livelier conversation at this time.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 04:44 pm (UTC)
lizziecrowe: Something to add to the conversation


http://canyourelate.org/2011/05/24/rape-prevention-tips/

It's an interesting observation--these kinds of tips aimed at rapists really do work. People have the idea that rapists are drooling, mindless beasts, and some of them are--but even so, it turns out that they do respond to what culture says is ok. The 'Don't Be That Guy' thought process actually works.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 03:21 pm (UTC)
paulk54321: Re: Something to add to the conversation

So how exactly is a man supposed to approach a woman without harassing or raping her? I read a lot of horror stories about women who can't walk down the street without being assaulted but nothing about when a man is allowed to approach a woman without becoming a felon.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 03:28 pm (UTC)
lizziecrowe: Re: Something to add to the conversation

How about by announcing himself, keeping a respectful distance, letting her know his intention? You know, decent social skills and respect? You don't hear about it because it happens every day and its considered NORMAL.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 03:47 pm (UTC)
paulk54321: Re: Something to add to the conversation

Whenever I approach a woman, she stiffens and gives me clear body language not to approach her. I work in construction so it's tough to meet women anyway. How do I get past the wall she throws up? I have a lot of women friends but they don't think of me "that way"

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 04:11 pm (UTC)
lizziecrowe: Re: Something to add to the conversation

women are trained from puberty to be wary of men who approach them for fear of being raped. the things women have to do in order to feel safe is a huge list. HUGE. I mean really, have you ever thought about what YOu do to keep from being raped? Seriously, have you ever had to walk home, or even between college campus buildings in pairs or groups to ensure you don’t get attacked by some random guy? Have you ever been at a party or a club and had to have your hand over your drink the whole time to keep someone from putting something into it. Do you carry a whistle around in your pocket or on your keys in case you get attacked? Do you stiffen when you get approached by someone you don’t know? Are you automatically afraid when someone stops to help you on the side of the road, even if they’re a cop? Do you carry pepper spray, mace, or a tazr for fear of being attacked, or because you already have been and want to make sure it never happens again?

Have you considered acknowledging that wall to her and apologizing for spooking her? Let ting her know that you understand her apprehension and that you have no intention of harming her in any way, while keeping your distance. And then, if she still has the wall up, let her know that you understand, and then LEAVE HER ALONE. A woman has a right to protect herself, even if you do mean her no harm. And frankly, women NEED to protect themselves.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 09:38 pm (UTC)
ldyerzsie: Re: Something to add to the conversation

If this only happens when you're wearing your construction gear, then dump the gear.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 06:34 pm (UTC)
robin_june

90 degrees from the aim of the topic: Did anyone else notice the "backpack" of the person standing behind her?

(I could say what it means that that's what I noticed third about that photo, but that would be Telling...)

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 07:45 pm (UTC)
capplor

You mean the Gold Tone banjo in the vinyl gig bag?

No.

This kind of post draws me down to the comments in very short order due to a morbid form of curiosity. I didn't look at the background until the second viewing.



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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 10:40 pm (UTC)
warinbear

Hey, now -- don't be hating on the Muslims. :<

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 10:47 pm (UTC)
alverant

Not all of them. Just the ones who kill women for the "crime" of being raped and bringing "dishonor" to the clan.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 03:28 am (UTC)
gardnerhill

Plenty of good KKKhristian places in the Gewd Ol' Yew Ess of Ayy have that same attitude about women. And not just red-staters - think of all the liberal d00dz who supported Assange.

It is a global problem, not one that can be righteously pointed to from far away as SOmeone Else's Problem.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 01:10 pm (UTC)
redaxe

Precisely. I recommend http://www.mencanstoprape.org/ for good followup resources

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 02:22 pm (UTC)
ldyerzsie

And she's just walking around like a lot of men. I still want to know why the big, hairy, nasty looking men get to walk around topless, and I can't without getting arrested. I haven't got anything they don't have. And in many cases--at least around these parts--I have significantly less than the men.