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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013, 09:27 am
2013 Oscar and Razzie Nominations

Oscars here, Razzies here.

Thoughts?

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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 02:40 pm (UTC)
ladystarblade

Love that Hugh Jackman was nominated (though he's walking into a Day-Lewis-shaped buzzsaw), love the supporting acting and directing noms, but really...they couldn't open up that 10th Best Picture slot for 'Skyfall'? Really? *slams head against wall and begins waving 'Justice for Skyfall' banner*

I've actually seen/enjoyed several of these movies at the theater this year, so I'm vaguely jazzed for the Oscars. At least more than I have been in years. Lincoln earned every one of those nominations.


Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 02:41 pm (UTC)
dear_lizzy

11 nominations out of 10 categories...ouch!

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 02:48 pm (UTC)
alverant

Snubbing Avengers for best picture and putting "Life of Pi" on there proves (again) that the Oscars have no credibility.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 02:58 pm (UTC)
ladystarblade

Avengers was my favorite movie of the year, but I've long since resigned myself to the fact that the Academy will NEVER nominate a movie where someone's wearing a spandex suit (so I guess we can blame Cap for this one *snirk*)

Life of Pi the book was rather dull, and what little I saw of the movie stayed true to the source material. All the pretty in the world can't save a dull story.

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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 02:59 pm (UTC)
filkertom

Honestly, there was no way Avengers would get a Best Picture nod. But I do think it should be up for at least Best Cinematography, if not Best Director. And I thought Life of Pi was excellent, myself.

On the other hand, Zero Dark Thirty is either a tense action thriller or unbridled propaganda, depending on who you talk to (although I'm leaning for T.A.T.) -- and I'd never heard of Amour, Beasts of the Southern Wild, or Silver Linings Playbook before this morning. I mean, we're talking stealth releases here.

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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 03:33 pm (UTC)
alverant

My biggest problem with Life of Pi was that the movie's message was "Believe in God because it makes a better story."

As for "Zero Dark Thirty", it's not as accurate as it claims because it shows torture to be effective and said it has a role in finding OBL and neither of which are true. I consider its nomination to be flag waving and if it wins it will be for that reason the same as "The Hurt Locker".

I agree with Lady; genre movies are snubbed by the Oscars. That's why I don't care what they say. It's not about the merits of the movie, it's about egos.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 04:06 pm (UTC)
kkatowll

Stealth releases??? Those have been the shoo-ins for best picture for ages. I can understand how you might not hear about them if you're relying on typical commercials -- but if you followed movie news, those would not be a surprise to you.
I do want to say, though, that I thought Beasts was truly horrible. That kid in no way deserves a best actress nom. And I can't believe no one from Hope Springs was nominated -- that's the best film I've seen (so far) of the entire year.
I haven't seen Silver yet, but I have high expectations (which may mean it will come tumbling down...)

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 04:47 pm (UTC)
filkertom

Hm. Well, I get everything off the Intertubes, and, seriously, I hadn't heard of any of those three before this morning.

This year, I have seen (in no particular order): The Hunger Games, The Avengers, Brave, The Amazing Spider-Man, The Dark Knight Rises, The Cabin In The Woods, The Bourne Legacy, Life Of Pi, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, Wreck-It Ralph.

I own but haven't yet watched: John Carter, Sherlock Holmes: Game Of Shadows.

At some point, I want to see: Argo, ParaNorman, Frankenweenie, Dredd, Looper, Les Miserables, Django Unchained, Lincoln.

Curious about but I'll live if I can't get to 'em: Rise of the Guardians, Cloud Atlas, Amour (having just looked at the preview)*.



* I've gotta say it -- the first thing that popped into my head was, "Oh, great, another miserably depressing French film about life and love and death and dying." Truly, it is a legitimate art form, and I am so pleased it exists, but I'm not the audience. I was bludgeoned by Camille Claudel many years ago, and never quite recovered.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 05:38 pm (UTC)
alverant

Sorry Tom, filkers aren't allowed to see that one movie. Don't you know that we're...

Banned from Argo (every one)

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 06:39 pm (UTC)
jss1113

+1.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 11:04 pm (UTC)
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Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 01:35 am (UTC)
shadowofsummer

I was about to take you to task for not having heard anything about Silver Linings Playbook since I thought that film was WAY over-advertised. Then I realised I only thought that because part of the plot revolves around DeNiro being a huge Philadelphia Eagles fan so really I'd just seen it advertised during every ad-break of the two/three football games I watched each week during the three or four weeks surrounding its release.

I heard of Beasts Of The Southern Wild only because Tavi Gevinson interviewed the 9 year-old lead actress a month or two ago on Rookie Magazine. Amour I had to look up after I saw the nominations.

But, I mean, it's not exactly just a genre snub for the Avengers to miss out; the Academy doesn't go for summer blockbusters at all, as a rule.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 04:15 pm (UTC)
rono_60103

I've never had as much respect for either award since 1998 when I found that I enjoyed the overly long movie that won the Razzie for "Worst Picture" (The Postman), much more than I enjoyed the overly long movie that won the Oscar for "Best Picture" (Titanic)

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 05:44 pm (UTC)
his_spiffyness

Yes, the Razzies are just trolling of the industry of late.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 01:41 am (UTC)
shadowofsummer

I think the point I realised the Razzies were just picking whatever would get the most publicity was the year they nominated Paris Hilton for Repo: The Genetic Opera. Say what you will about Paris Hilton, but when she was cast as a vain, drug-addled, heiress who is addicted to cosmetic surgery and has aspirations of becoming a singer despite a complete lack of talent... that was a moment of casting genius on a par with Robert Downey Jr. playing Tony Stark.
(And what's more, the only way in which Paris Hilton conceivably can ruin Repo is if you're too hung up on Paris Hilton being Paris Hilton to buy into her as a character, which is sort of like complaining that Adaptation is a bad movie because you don't believe Nicolas Cage can possibly be a good actor.)

Sat, Jan. 12th, 2013 02:38 am (UTC)
dan_ad_nauseam

It can't be any worse than the infamous ad in Variety pushing Stallone in First Blood for a Best Actor nomination.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 04:23 pm (UTC)
markbernstein

My first thought was "Damn, I've hardly seen *any* movies in theaters this year." Seriously, of all the nominees in all the major categories, the only film I've seen is "Flight". (And yes, both the script and Denzel Washington are very, very good.) We also recently saw "The Pirates! Band of Misfits" on cable, and liked it. Expand to all categories, and I've seen "The Avengers" and "The Hobbit".

Granted, it was a limited-income year, but I'm also slow to go to the theater because we have a big TV, and everything eventually shows up on cable.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 05:45 pm (UTC)
starcat_jewel

Zero Dark Thirty is a travesty, and should not get a single vote in ANY of the categories for which it's nominated, on the basis of being torture-porn. I'm tempted to say the same thing about Django Unchained on the basis of racism.

OTOH, if ZD30 wins, there goes the credibility of anybody talking about the "liberal establishment in Hollywood" forever. Along with the credibility of the Oscars.


ETA: Also, I think the Razzies have their "Worst Couple" and "Worst Ensemble" links reversed.


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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 07:19 pm (UTC)
alverant

"OTOH, if ZD30 wins, there goes the credibility of anybody talking about the "liberal establishment in Hollywood" forever. Along with the credibility of the Oscars."

I don't think either is too worried about having credibility. Reality doesn't seem to matter in either group.

DU is a revenge flick that I'm tempted to see mostly because it will upset people in the Dixie states who stll think their side should have won.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 06:23 pm (UTC)
kshandra

...can I just talk about how COMPLETELY EFFING THRILLED I am that Fresh Guac is up for Best Animated Short?!

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 07:19 pm (UTC)
sdelmonte

1. I need to get to the movies more. Argo and Lincoln have been on my list for a while now.

2. They could have nominated a tenth film, and that slot is often the de facto frontrunner for best animated film. So it's a bit of a diss that neither Brave or Wreck It Ralph was nominated. And those two have to be the frontrunners, based on the reception they got. At least there were five animated films nominated in that category this year.

3. So Wolverine, Catwoman, Two-Face (or Colonel Philips), Katniss Everdeen and Princess Giselle are up for Oscars. There is a reason that genre films are so good now. The caliber of acting has skyrocketed. And the best part is that such films are no longer a stepping stone to something more "respectable."

4. But I want to see Alan Arkin win above anyone else. (Even though I can't actually vouch for his performance yet.) Arkin is a national treasure and should win an Oscar just once.

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
ladystarblade

Alan Arkin did win Best Supporting Actor in '06, but I would not be upset to see him win again.

In fact, we *will* have a 2nd time Oscar winner, no matter who wins Best Supporting Actor. All nominees have won before: Alan Arkin for Little Miss Sunshine, Philip Seymour Hoffman for Capote, Christoph Waltz for Inglourious Basterds, Tommy Lee Jones for The Fugitive, and Robert De Niro for...hell, he's Robert Frickin' De Niro! (Actually, he won for Godfather II)

/movienerd

And I fully agree with your third point. It's cool to be in genre flicks now!

Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 07:20 pm (UTC)
lemmozine

The only one I've actually seen is Searching for Sugar Man. Liked it. I'm not sure, but I think the only other theater movie I've seen in the past year was The Hobbit 3D. Liked that too. Planning to see On the Road in about a week when it gets here.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 03:30 am (UTC)
gardnerhill

Nope, didn't see any of 'em.